Game/Dating

5 Conversation Starters to Get the Ball Rolling

We all agree that value is everything.

I’ve already proved that and outlined how you can improve that.

You already know the answer…

Value

Value

Value

That’s not the question. Most of you do not struggle with that all encompassing question… What do women want?

I’ve found that guys tend to fall in to 3 groups:

1. You know the answer and you are actively doing everything within your power to build value.

  • You lift weights and play the muscle building game the way it is supposed to be played.
  • You eat the right foods.
  • You do everything you can to self-educate.
  • You actively mingle with strangers on a daily basis.
  • You do everything you can to get your own place.
  • You associate with winners (or others like you who are on the way up).
  • You do everything you can make as much money as possible.
  • You work with the best.

2. You know the answer but you continue to deny it. You do everything but the things you are supposed to do.

  • You don’t lift heavy weights or train intensely. Instead, you opt for cross-fit, calisthenics, yoga, or some half-assed 3 day program.
  • You don’t take action.
  • You continue to eat processed junk.
  • You still let television brainwash you.
  • You’re still a PUA fanboy in search of that “magical” answer.
  • You look for the easy way out… results without evolution.
  • You don’t mingle with strangers.
  • You’re still sleeping in a race car bed 😉
  • You’re still hanging out with the bros who aren’t going anywhere.

3. You don’t know the answer.

  • You’re a complete social retard (or have a legitimate disability).
  • You’re still bluepilled and believe in Santa Claus.

What group are you in?

Groups 1 realizes that PUA or cold approach is one big scam.

They get it. They get that if you’re doing the right things on a consistent basis, there’s no going out to specifically day game or night game.

You don’t have to put yourself through hundreds of approaches (and rejections) to maybe bang 1 or 2 chicks.

Instead, you have your daily routine and life tends to throw opportunities (chicks) your way. It’s up to you what you do with them.

Groups 2 and 3 are my concern. You still need to wake up.

You are all in luck…

because I have a way of explaining this shit in yet another way.

This is another way of looking at it.

Here it goes.

“Getting the Ball Rolling”

Regardless of what group you fall in, every guy has the potential to underachieve (or not be satisfied with) in their dating life.

Does that make sense?

It should. Every guy has thought about how to bang more chicks.

You all share the same problem.

And in all likeliness, you have tried to solve that problem through PUA means aka cold approaching.

The more chicks you approach the better your dating life will be right?

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

The problem isn’t so much that you’re not approaching (or talking to) enough chicks.

I know that. I get countless e-mails and comments where guys talk about going all out with the cold approaching and not getting jack shit.

No.

The problems lies with your ability to “get the ball rolling” in a non-creepy manner.

Getting the ball rolling is your conversation starter in a normal setting.

When life puts it on a tee for you… She’s right there.

The happens a lot. Sometimes all you need to do is put your phone away and look up 🙂

“How do I talk to her?”

“What do I say?”

In PUA terms, that’s your opener.

However, aggressively approaching a girl and trying to talk dirty right off the bat usually creeps the girl out (especially if it’s in a normal daytime setting).

In reality, you often have to baby step it.

So how do you do that?

You use your observation skills and make an initial comment.

Here are 5 that come to mind.

1. Location. Location. Location.

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Location is the easiest way to start a conversation.

It’s simple because all you do is use your observation skills and start talking. This is a slam dunk if you have a lot of travel experience (or have moved around a lot).

If you are multi-dimensional, this is often the go to “opener.”

In my experience, there are 5 ways to infer location and get the ball rolling.

1. Accent

Accent is very easy to pick up. You listen to the chick talk.

Then you say something like: “I like your accent, where are you from?”

*** This “opener” only applies when you can clearly hear her accent.

Southern chicks are a slam dunk for me because I have tons of experience in the South.

I went to school in North Carolina.

I lived in Texas.

I’ve also traveled all over the South and know a bunch of people from all over the region.

Thus, I know that if I just get the ball rolling, there’s a decent chance that I will be able to at least hold my own in the conversation and probably find something in common with the chick.

2. Shirts/Hats

How often do you see chicks wearing something (like a shirt or hat) showing a location?

A lot of girls (people in general) do.

For example, if I were to see a chick wearing a “Don’t Mess With Texas” shirt/hat, I would get the ball rolling by asking: “Are you from Texas?” or “What part of Texas are you from?” This is an easy one for me because I have lived in Texas and have also been to all the major cities in Texas.

I would talk about my experience living in Austin and go from there.

I once met a chick in Vegas (at Daylight) with a Montauk hat on. This was a slam dunk for obvious reasons.

3. Sports Teams Shirts/Hats

In the US, I think every guy should have a basic understanding of sports.

Who are the teams?

Who are the stars?

Who’s good?

What’s going on?

For instance, if a chick says she likes the Miami Heat, you should know that’s a basketball team.

Your response shouldn’t be “Oh I like football too!”

In general, chicks like sports (or at least have a basic understanding). Sports are a huge part of American culture and entertainment.

Chicks wear sports shit all the time (especially during football season).

Sports rivalries are a great way to tease chicks.

Example: As a lifelong Yankee fan, I always tease chicks any time I see them wearing Red Sox hats. That’s how I get the ball rolling.

Tease em’ a little bit then tell em’: “Look even though you’re a Red Sox fan, I think you’re really cute. You wanna go out sometime?”

Another Example: I once gave a chick a hard time because she was wearing an Eagles jersey. I was teasing her that I wasn’t sure about her and that I might get AIDS. She gave me one of those playful “fuck yous” while giggling and hitting me.

*** I said this because Philly is kind of a dirty city. It’s also in reference to that Tom Hanks movie Philadelphia (he has AIDS in the movie)

Again, COLD BUSINESS.

4. School

Like sports, it also helps to have a basic knowledge of American colleges.

Hopefully you didn’t take the red pill too early and went to one…

Anything potentially signalling a particular college could be an excellent opportunity for you to get the ball rolling.

Ex. The first chick I kicked it with in Vegas was the result of this. We were working out next to each other at the gym. She was wearing an orange University of Texas shirt. So I asked her: “Did you go to UT?”

She did and we went back and forth talking about Austin and eventually talking about ourselves. When I wanted to get back to my workout I asked her if she wanted to hang out. She said: “Sure!”… and then we “hung out.”

Are you starting to see a pattern here?

Like everything on this general location list…. getting the ball rolling is the only difficult part (and even that’s easy).

Even if you don’t have anything in common with that initial observation, there’s usually something there.

You just have to do a little digging. And hot chicks usually aren’t stone walls. They’re usually friendly and talkative. “Talkative” is a good thing because that means she’s probably going to ramble on about herself. You can usually find something to talk about within that rambling.

Pay attention to those little golden nuggets.

Does that make sense?

5. License Plates

License plate spotting is really a matter of luck.

Realistically, you’re not going to go out of your way to scrape through parking lots looking for license plates with specific states. That would be PUA level of creep.

Instead, stay the course. Do your thing and capitalize on opportunities when you get them.

For instance, a few days after I moved back to North Carolina, a hot chick puled up next to me at the grocery store. Her car had New York plates on it.

My super duper opener was: “What part of New York are you from?”

She talked about herself. She asked some questions about me. I said we should hang out. She said “yea we should.”…. COLD BUSINESS.

2. Girls with dogs.

hot girl walking dog

After location, a girl with her dog is easily my favorite situation to get the ball rolling. Easily.

It’s a win win.

I love dogs and it’s a very easy transition.

Getting the ball rolling is easy. You start playing with the dog.

If you’re a naturally charismatic person, the dog will go up to you, and immediately like you.

Once you’re interacting with the dog, immediately transitioning to the girl is easy.

You start asking her questions about the dog.

“What’s their name?”

“What kind of dog is it?” (if you can’t tell)

“How old are they?”

Briefly talk about your dog if you have one (in my case I talk about my family’s dog, Tigger).

Then you shift the conversation to the girl.

“By the way, my name’s Sonny. What’s your name?”

“You from around here?”

Then you go back and forth feeling each other out.

And then you close.

“What’s you schedule like this week?”

She says when she’s free. You suggest you guys hang out (ex. get some food).

She’s down. So you grab her number.

Cold business.

*** Seriously, chicks with dogs are money as far as getting the ball rolling. The ones with especially intimidating dogs (Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Pitbulls, etc.) are usually single (or are dating total beta males). They are in desperate need of strength in their lives. That’s where you come in.

The hottest chick I ever dated in Austin was the result of using her dog to get the ball rolling. I was walking on 6th Street by myself after getting a burger. This chick was walking her dog (dalmatian puppy) and the puppy came up to me as they were walking by. I talked to her for 5 minutes, got her number, and was slamming her out Thursday night.

3. School work/Reading Material

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Ever see a chick doing schoolwork by herself?

What about reading a book?

Ever see that?… Of course you have.

Those are opportunities to start small talk.

It’s very simple.

If she’s doing schoolwork/studying, you say: “What are you working on?” or “What are you studying?”

Then you let her talk about herself a little bit.

Then you talk about yourself.

If you have some chemistry you will naturally go back and forth talking with one another.

4. Music.

headphones

Again, very easy.

You see a chick bobbing her head back and forth… You ask: “What are you listening to?”

Then you guys start talking about music.

Then you transition from there to talk about other stuff.

This is why it is helpful to have a basic knowledge popular of music.

5. Food.

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“What are you eating? That looks good!”

Then you start talking about food.

“What other kind of food do you like?”

Later on…. “Hey I know this great Italian place by me. I’d love to take you. When are you free?”

*** This is a good way to get the ball rolling if you’re sitting by yourself at a bar. Every show up to happy hour early and see a chick munching on an appetizer by herself? Exactly. That’s your cue bro!

Boom. Boom… Fucking Boom. 

Look…

Getting the ball rolling is a huge difference maker. Unfortunately, this is largely ignored by PUA (in favor of going up to chicks like homeless dudes).

You don’t have to do that.

You don’t have to put any effort in to cold approaching.

If you only capitalized on those opportunities life throws your way on a daily basis…

Now you can!

Just get the ball rolling.

What most people don’t realize is that the smooth cats (the guys who are “smooth” with the ladies) aren’t that special.

They’re not running around, jumping through hoops, and doing all sorts of crazy approaches. They not using any special psychological tricks.

They just do the following…

1. They get the ball rolling. 

2. They transition in to different talking topics. 

3. They close. 

That’s it.

This game is a fucking cakewalk.

Sonny

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7 Comments

  1. […] 5 Conversation Starters to Get the Ball Rolling […]

  2. reed
    July 11, 2016 at 6:32 pm — Reply

    LOL@you. You used to advocate direct approaches(I guess this is you idea of cold approach) to “cut the bullshit” as you have said now your advocating indirect. You would have had success with these chicks it was direct or indirect because your tall jacked and goodlooking. stop blaming guys for lack of success because they dont “get the ball rolling”(do indirect cold appraoch). Girls know what you want, aqqthey aint stupid, they know you want pussy. A average looking guy/ugly is still gonna get the same results if it indirect(getting the ball roling.)or direct(cold approach).

    Those guys the are “smooth with ladies” are almost goodlooking, jacked ortall or a combo of all three. It has nothing to do with the fact that they asked what music they are listening to or what books to. They could have said “I thought you were sexy,cute attractive etc… would have made little difference.

    Your bing a hypocrite because you used to be against indirect shit, now you competely changing what you teach.

    • diregna
      July 11, 2016 at 7:50 pm — Reply

      LOL that was my first thing that came to mind when I read it.

      Brb using indirect openers.
      Brb pretending to give a shit about her shirt.
      Brb not “cold approaching”.

      Just lol….

      • Enea
        July 12, 2016 at 7:58 am — Reply

        You guys are fucking retarded, Sonny said that value matters right in the beginning.

    • July 15, 2016 at 3:05 pm — Reply

      No. If you are too creepy/too aggressive doesn’t matter if you’re good looking… you can always “ruin it”

      A lot of guys that get in to the PUA stuff ruin in because they copy the creepy stuff whereas they had a shot if they had just slow cooked it.

      Cry more fag.

  3. Joelsuf
    July 23, 2016 at 12:48 pm — Reply

    Its funny, a lot of the ice breakers you mentioned here actually fall directly in line with what many old school PUAs from the mid 00s used to preach. I use them a ton, although I’ve gotten nearly 4 times more success from online dating which PUAs despise nowadays (cuz they can’t make thousands of dollars from it). Nearly all PUAs from the mid 00s also argued that the more worldly you are as a man, the less approaching you’ll need to do since you’ll be able to relate to others anyway which means cold approaching won’t feel like cold approaching. And if you are a guy who just has hobbies that aren’t cringeworthy (just because chicks play Pokemon Go and are obsessed with Harry Potter does NOT mean they are Pokemon and Potter fans), living on your own is literally all you need.

    In traditional terms, I’m a very meh looking guy (short, overweight, but am still able to grow out my hair which is a golden ticket in your 30s lol) with a very meh job but yet I still get with chicks. They may be meh looking because I am meh looking, but its certainly better than what most PUA followers get which is nothing. Why is that? Its because I have competitive spirit, and always want to get better at stuff. Chicks see right through to that. They know when they have encountered a boy who has given up on life or even worse a boy who looks to female attention to fuel his self esteem. I can take entire months off dating and still be just as secure with my masculinity as I would be if I was getting laid every week. VERY FEW men can pull this off and be authentic about it. It allows me to literally get chicks whenever I want. All I have to do is put in a few numbers (like maybe 5-10% of what most PUAs have to in terms of approaching).

    Today’s follower of PUAism thinks that getting with chicks = Proof of masculinity. I have a theory that many of them are actually closet homosexuals and they are using PUAism to run from homosexuality. A decade ago this was not the case. PUAism a decade ago just wanted to use cold approaching to ADD to their dating options in their community/social circle. But now most PUAs either have a social circle that consists of ONLY other PUAs or even worse, none at all. This is not a good trend. The lone wolf lifestyle is not for everyone. I can pull it off, because I never truly feel lonely.

    Sorry about the obscene length lol

    • July 26, 2016 at 3:06 pm — Reply

      It’s all good. Most PUA’s get laid by knockoff skanks at clubs/bars… Then they try to wifey these pieces of trash up and wonder where they are going wrong in the game lol!

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